The idea of knowledge and understanding as
explained in Spencer's blog caught my attention. This principle had been taught
many'a'times by my father in the walls of the place I call home. With this in
mind I desire to take the invitation presented by Thomas and add on to the
comments found in Macey's post in regards to comparing the De Oratore and
Gorgias.
Although similar in some ways, ultimately
both dialogues are extremely different in nature and purpose. Plato's Gorgias
has a very clear purpose; to prove that Plato (as well as his mentor Socrates)
are correct in their logic and ultimately have the moral truth.
On the other hand Cicero allows both
sides of the argument to be heard as he creates the dialogue between Antonius
and Crassus, thus producing an environment of exploration and deeper
understanding of the principles of rhetoric. This could be interpreted as a
sophist ideology.
Plato claimed that orators have no
specific skill and intellect but rather a broad understanding of many things
(which in my mind seems immoral or more amoral) while it is apparent that
Cicero believes that, “the orator must know the facts of his case.” This adds a
level of morality and truth to his definition of rhetoric.
The final point I wish to make is the most
significant I have to offer. Yes, Plato was able to trump his foe in Gorgias
but did he truly come away as victor? In reality, Cicero's ability to use
rhetoric has swayed our class to trust his interpretation of rhetoric over
Plato's. How? The answer is found in Proverbs 29:11, "A fool uttereth all
his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards." Cisero recognized
that to persuade requires trust in the persuader and gained that trust through
allowing Crassus hear out the angle of Antonius. Plato failed to understand
that mere logos is not enough to persuade when we don’t have all the facts in
this life.
You make a really good point about being swayed by silence. This post really helped me to pinpoint why I liked tonight's reading much better (and found it more compelling) than Gorgias- The humility of the speaker and the presentation are what make it convincing. Check out my post for more of my thoughts.
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