Socrates challenged Gorgias to a true battle of wits (but not to the death) in which he attacks all of Gorgias' claims, that rhetoric alone can be used to outpace and outdo any expert in any field. It is interesting to note how well Gorgias puts his case forwards, despite speaking so very little in his discussion. Socrates recognizes it outright from his pupil Polus.
"Polus appears to be beautifully prepared for speeches, Gorgias, but he's not doing what he'd promised Charephon....(h)e doesn't appear to be answering what was asked at all."(Plato, 32, italics added)
Indeed, both the master and his student were able to present impressive displays of rhetoric, but they did not convey how their words could succeed when put to the test against someone who understands what they are saying, and able to express using not just a flaunting tongue but sincerity and belief in their own words.
Compare this to Elder Bednar, who not only speaks eloquently, he recognizes the utility of every phrase he uses. He gives his speech to inspire his audience, and he does it with honesty. He knows that spreading the word of Christ will lead to thousands of actions and reach to millions of people. You can see it in his eyes, in his composure. You can hear his love for what he is proclaiming. There is rhetoric involved, but it is not empty. It is honest, and down to earth so that all can understand and know that what he speaks comes from his soul, not just his intellect.
Thank you for highlighting that part about Polus, it makes me think of Gorgias and Polus as performers, in contrast to Elder Bednar who, I felt, was focused on delivering his message clearly.
ReplyDeleteTruth! No matter how hard one tries, truth is always truth. It can can not be changed. Whether I claim it is raining outside in this moment or not plays little importance if it is truly raining or not (I hope I illustrated that well enough). You are so right; Elder Bednar has something more than words and tactics; he has truth to back him up. I like the contrast you propose. The power of rhetoric in supporting truth is a "beautiful" thing but if rhetoric is used "unjustly" it becomes "ugly" and even manipulative.
ReplyDeleteI agree a lot with Jessie's comments. There is a fine line between being a type of performer or actor than being a true rhetorician. I really liked the highlighted emphasis that was used in this post to exploit Polus.
ReplyDeleteI do think that Gorgias should get some credit though, since he was only allowed to answer questions briefly while Socrates was allowed to give a full lecture and Bednar was giving a full speech. How was Gorgias supposed to develop a point fully without being able to speak fully? Maybe he still would have been more of a performer than a rhetorician but most rhetorical devices cannot be implemented in one word answers.
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