endeavored, as nearly as I could, to give the general purport of what was
actually said.” We learn that what appears to be the words of Pericles, is actually
just what Thucydides thought he would say, doing the best he could to include
his given sources. Although in my eyes his intentions for doing so are not
clear, it seems to be the case the Thucydides is actually doing most of the
talking. One idea of a motivation is that he desired for individuals in the
future to be educated on the past so they are not doomed to repeat it. If this
is the case, it could be difficult to identify what branch of oratory this
piece belongs to. Because it is in the form of an Epidictic piece, could it be
classified as such? Or because Thucydides desires for individuals of the future
to not repeat the past (and therefore accusing those of the past) could it be
classified as Judicial? Perhaps you could go as far as to classify it as Legislative.
Although there is not deliberation regarding policy in the future, it could be
argued that the authors intentions were to influence future generations and the
way THEY created policy and therefore could be classified as Legislative. I don’t
think the answer is clear, and that is exactly my point. It is not as easy as
it appears to classify a piece such as this into one specific branch of oratory
as others may suggest.
Tuesday, September 15, 2015
Not as Clear as it Seems
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As you said, it's not always very clear from which branch of oratory discourses stem. Personally I feel this adds effect and helps the audience from "tuning out" the author's motive.
ReplyDeleteI like how you pointed out that this speech pulls in the past, present and the future. This is so true because either Pericles or Thucydides (whoever's ideas these truly were) draws on what has happened, how that causes them to reflect on their current situation and how they should move forward with new conviction.
ReplyDeleteI like how you pointed out that this speech pulls in the past, present and the future. This is so true because either Pericles or Thucydides (whoever's ideas these truly were) draws on what has happened, how that causes them to reflect on their current situation and how they should move forward with new conviction.
ReplyDeleteHuh, I remember reading the part about him putting it in the words he thought they would have used, but I didn't put two and two together. It's a bit like a game of telephone, where the speech got passed on through different sources and perhaps lost something along the way.
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