Tuesday, September 15, 2015

History by the Losers?

Supposedly history is written by the winners.

Yet, Thucydides, whose history we are reading, was a loser. He wrote this history while he was in exile because his military campaign failed.

Pericles’s funeral oration is famous thousands of years later and may have even been a model for Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address. This great general died from the plague and his army eventually fell to the Spartans.

So what’s with the power, positive history of Athens? This history is written by losers.

Why is this history so successful?

Maybe it’s because Thucydides and Pericles knew their audience.

Amanda D wrote a great post about how Thucydides and Pericles knew their audiences: Thucydides’ was future generations and Pericles’ was the mourning. Well, we are the part of the future generation, so point for Thucydides. Also, we relate to mourning for lost loves ones. We can be a part of that audience. Jared L made that connection in his post. Point for Pericles. 

Or perhaps it was their pathos.

Since they knew their audiences, these men knew what to say to best appeal to their listeners/readers’ emotions. Both men also appealed to Athenian pride at great lengths. That powerful, positive appeal to pride rallied helped moral, as Chloe S goes into, and perhaps that is part of why it is still remembered.


Could it have been their ethos?

For as much as I’ve highlighted their losing, these two men were amazingly successful. For histories on Thucydides and Pericles to see their many, many impressive successes, click on the links. One failure doesn’t even really compare to everything they did well. They were well-known and had the credibility to back up their words. Thucydides was a trusted historian for his honesty. Pericles was a war general who understood the pain of death.


There are probably a lot of reasons that Thucydides and Pericles’ histories are remembered today—many more than we can go into in a single post. Ultimately, I think these men were winners with rhetoric. They understood the persuasive appeals, kairos, decorum, all that. So despite Athens’s military lose, their rhetoricians were winners and so the history was passed on.

3 comments:

  1. I agree with you Maren; despite the actual content of these men's writings and speeches being somewhat depressing, today we focus on the way in which they shared their stories. So even losers can have a following!

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  2. In addition, Thucydides says this in his intro: "But if he who desires to have before his eyes
    a true picture of the events which have happened, and of the like
    events which may be expected to happen hereafter in the order of
    human things, shall pronounce what I have written to be useful,
    then I shall be satisfied."

    History tends to repeat itself, and sometimes we can learn a lot from the losing side. As you said, Thucydides ( I swear I misspell his name every time) knew his audience: future generations.

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  3. It is interesting that history is also subjective to the author. I think often times we make the mistake of assuming everything we learn in school is absolutely correct, when in reality history is told using rhetoric! Great post.

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